I had this 'loved' Eetsit that I had intended to 'End' (Schmoove rings and silicone recess). Never got around to it, so I put it up for trade. Ironically, my buddy Blav wanted it, but wanted me to End it. Finally got around to it this morning. I think it came out good. Still waiting on the silicone to dry. I have an Ended Eetsit that Pyrotecnic did. Everyone knows about Zammy's End breaking because the silicone recess makes the sidewalls too thin. Pyrotecnic only cut a .030" recess, which left the sidewalls thick enough, but I keep having problems with the silicone coming out of mine. So, I took a page from Russ Andert, and drilled very shallow holes into the recess (8 in all - one every 45 degrees). Kinda gives it a neat look, and should help the silicone stay in place better.
Here's a picture of today's Eetsit alongside the one Pyrotecnic did (I added the drilled holes to mine, too!)
Hope you enjoy it Lars!
Update: Cleared up the chatter marks, and Ended Lars' Bape, too!
Thread: An Eetsit meets its End!
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05-31-2009 02:50 PM
05-31-2009 03:05 PM
So the stock colored one is the one that Pyro ended and the polished one is the one you ended?
I like the idea of those shallow holes, especially if it works well enough without compromising the strength of the walls.
The stock colored Eetsit needs some work on the Shmooves and the bearing well though IMO. Lots of chatter going on there, looks kinda sketchy. No matter who did it, no offense intended at all. And either way, it could be easily fixed without cutting any deeper into the wall.
Which one is Lars getting?
05-31-2009 06:15 PM
Lots of chatter there.... Might want to go in and clean that up. No big deal really, just should be tended to.
06-04-2009 09:32 AM
mad chatter marks3yo3 yoyos
06-04-2009 05:10 PM
I modded the polished eetsit it was my first eetsit mod. If you ever want to sell it let me know I would love to have it.
06-04-2009 08:53 PM
Nope. Got it from "YOYO5"
Plan on working on the chatter marks this week-end. Will post pics when done. I think after much research, and some insight from Luke, I have realized some things that I could improve on when it comes to grinding my cutting tools. (Thanks Luke!)
06-06-2009 03:03 PM
I have also found that if you turn up the speed a bit it reduces chatter.
06-06-2009 09:19 PM
^^Nope, I checked back, and I got this one from yoyo5. I know you and I have done several trades, though gordo. Either way, Ended Eetsits play great! I cleaned up a lot of the chatter yesterday, after re-grinding and re-sharpening some bits. Actually turned most of the chatter out turning the lathe by hand!
06-07-2009 06:02 AM
I can has tutorials?
06-07-2009 08:23 AM
06-07-2009 10:46 AM
I like the shallow holes idea as well!
It gives areas of depth and grip without completely weakening the walls...it will weaken them a bit though... looks like 30% of the silicone recess has a thinner wall than the rest... again, a cool idea! (I will steal it... if I ever get back on my lathe!) <rolls eyes>
Using a custom tool, undercutting the walls of the silicone groove would help too.... like a dove-tail shape... then the bottom of the silicone is wider than the top.
Definitely a challenge.
As for the chatter... sharp tools, adjust speed, a little lube/oil on the tool, remove all movement between tool tip and ways...
... and if all else fails... let the tool hang out in it's final position for a while at the end of the cut. It can chatter itself a smooth surface and quiet down eventually. :^)
(The Chinese 7x10/7x12 lathes can get a little out of adjustment and get some subtle play where the tool can move a bit)
FeralparrotThese are just toys, folks. Wonderful, addictive, beautiful, skill toys.
06-07-2009 04:49 PM
Finished Blav's Bape Ending today, too. I intentionally left any chatter marks in the recess. Figured it would give the silicone something to stick to. Here's detailed pictures of both:
FP, thanks for the ideas. I hadn't really thought about the dovetail idea. Might be easier accomplished with some type of milling bit, a mill and a rotary table... That's what I use to space the holes in the recess (rotary table).
06-07-2009 07:37 PM
That looks MUCH better! Glad it worked out for ya
I sometimes leave a little chatter in the silicone recess too for that very reason. Seemed to help out alot when I recessed my MG since I didnt go very deep at all with the recess.
06-07-2009 07:41 PM
Thanks Luke. I think the chatter / holes in the recess helped. I had to take the silicone out of one side of the Eetsit, and had a heck of a time getting it out! Figured that must be a good sign.
Again, thanks for all your advice, Luke!
I actually turned the schmooved in the Bape by hand to keep the chatter out (turned the lathe chuck by hand).
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