Thread: will this lube work for bearings?

http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.293/.f

i believe the 5% spray version that comes in the can is the most diluted type of this lube. it is mainly used for moving parts such as crossfaders (im a dj, and i know this is widely used for the crossfaders in the DJ mixers) but am wondering if it would be safe to use a drop in a ball bearing. im not really sure if its oil based, water based, etc. does anybody have any experience with this lube? or just by checkin out the site, can anybody tell if itd work or not?

i know this is kinda a vague question, so i apologize if its a lil too much to ask. just thot id throw it out there tho.

well i haven't had much experience with this lube but it does say...
"Uses:

Lubrication/protection of plastic-to-plastic parts (faders), plastic-to-metal parts (faders, linear sliders - dot matrix printers), metal-to-metal parts (sliding and slow rotating metal parts, locks, bearings), carbon-based controls (potentiometers) and membrane switches (mouse pointers, touch keypads)."

so i'd guess it should work. but i don't know the viscosity of it, so the "slow" part may mean that the lube will make a yoyo bearing slightly responsive. try it out and let us know.

the 2 most common lubes I use in my yoyo's can both be bought at walmarts and many other stores, and that's Remington rifle lube(thin teflon lube for low response) and 3-in-1 oil or sewing machine/household oil.(for a more responsive lube). hope this helps.

Originally Posted by tobiastate

well i haven't had much experience with this lube but it does say...
"Uses:

Lubrication/protection of plastic-to-plastic parts (faders), plastic-to-metal parts (faders, linear sliders - dot matrix printers), metal-to-metal parts (sliding and slow rotating metal parts, locks, bearings), carbon-based controls (potentiometers) and membrane switches (mouse pointers, touch keypads)."

so i'd guess it should work. but i don't know the viscosity of it, so the "slow" part may mean that the lube will make a yoyo bearing slightly responsive. try it out and let us know.

the 2 most common lubes I use in my yoyo's can both be bought at walmarts and many other stores, and that's Remington rifle lube(thin teflon lube for low response) and 3-in-1 oil or sewing machine/household oil.(for a more responsive lube). hope this helps.

the slow part scares me a bit. It might hurt a high speed bearing (yoyo bearing)
although, I really doubt it would.

ive felt it before and it is very thin and light in consistency. almost like water, altho i dont know if it is water based or not. also, its recommended by a lot of scratch dj's for their crossfaders, to make the faders work smoother and faster. ive felt the results of it before on a fader too and it definitely make sthe fader smoother, lighter, and much easier to move the fader back and forth really fast. for these reasons i was curiosu about its performance in a fast spinning yoyo bearing.

also, the 5% spray says it is made up of:

5% of the actual lubricant
20% of hydrocarbon propellant (dont know what this is?)
and surprisingly...
75% odorless mineral spirits!

and i know mineral spirits are recommended to actually CLEAN the bearing, so i am assuming this stuff is not water based? i really am gonna have to try this stuff soon...

That seems like a lot to pay for a yoyo lube, even if it works great. Yoyos are a very low stress application for bearings, and you can get a cheaper lube locally that will work great. I would also be a little worried about whether that would affect the plastic of the yoyo if you're using a plastic yoyos, but that's uncertainty about what it will do, not knowledge that it will hurt anything.

for the sake of $4 to get some YYJ thin lube that will work brilliantly and definitely not harm the plastic of your yos i think its worth getting..

or something like 3 in 1 oil if you dont want to buy online

YYJ thin lube
Sewing machine oil
3-n-1
trumpet valve oil
gun oil
air tool oil (synthetic is best)

There are others that are good but this is all my mind can come up with right now.

Originally Posted by Pyrokid

the slow part scares me a bit. It might hurt a high speed bearing (yoyo bearing)
although, I really doubt it would.

i really doubt it would to, unless it has a chemical that would impregnate itself into the metal then i seriously doubt it'd do any damage that a some mineral spirits or a sonic cleaning wouldn't fix. it may mean that the lube will suffice for a slow moving bearing but is not a formula that would sustain a high speed bearing, but i doubt it wouldn't, even if it's a thin viscosity lubricant.

Originally Posted by songa

ive felt it before and it is very thin and light in consistency. almost like water, altho i dont know if it is water based or not. also, its recommended by a lot of scratch dj's for their crossfaders, to make the faders work smoother and faster. ive felt the results of it before on a fader too and it definitely make sthe fader smoother, lighter, and much easier to move the fader back and forth really fast. for these reasons i was curiosu about its performance in a fast spinning yoyo bearing.
also, the 5% spray says it is made up of:
5% of the actual lubricant
20% of hydrocarbon propellant (dont know what this is?)
and surprisingly...
75% odorless mineral spirits!
and i know mineral spirits are recommended to actually CLEAN the bearing, so i am assuming this stuff is not water based? i really am gonna have to try this stuff soon...

well the Hydrocarbon Propellent is what makes the lube come out of the can, google it.

Originally Posted by Yossarian

That seems like a lot to pay for a yoyo lube, even if it works great. Yoyos are a very low stress application for bearings, and you can get a cheaper lube locally that will work great. I would also be a little worried about whether that would affect the plastic of the yoyo if you're using a plastic yoyos, but that's uncertainty about what it will do, not knowledge that it will hurt anything.

well like it said on the site... "Uses:
Lubrication/protection of plastic-to-plastic parts (faders), plastic-to-metal parts (faders, linear sliders - dot matrix printers),metal-to-metal parts (sliding and slow rotating metal parts, locks, bearings), carbon-based controls (potentiometers) and membrane switches (mouse pointers, touch keypads)." so i doubt that it'll do any cracking, melting, or otherwise any other damage to plastics in yoyos(besides it'd take a lot of prolonged exposure to the lube to do any real damage.)

Originally Posted by macca

for the sake of $4 to get some YYJ thin lube that will work brilliantly and definitely not harm the plastic of your yos i think its worth getting..
or something like 3 in 1 oil if you dont want to buy online

hey i'd say try it, it's how things like bearing cleaning(shield's bearing mod),siliconing, recess mod's, and the like all came to be, because people tried new things, and found better things that worked, it may not be worth the price to most people but it's all preference after all. =]

very true guys. thanks for all the help, and advice. thing is, i know a friend that has some of this lube so it wouldt be hard to get a hold of some for free. only thing is, he lives a little far so i just wanted to ask this on the board just to see if anyone somehow had any experience with it. i think ill give it a try soon. thanks agian guys!

Originally Posted by songa

very true guys. thanks for all the help, and advice. thing is, i know a friend that has some of this lube so it wouldt be hard to get a hold of some for free. only thing is, he lives a little far so i just wanted to ask this on the board just to see if anyone somehow had any experience with it. i think ill give it a try soon. thanks agian guys!

not a problem glad we could help, let us know how it works. =]

Originally Posted by icthus

trumpet valve oil

My friend plays trumpet. Does that mean I can just jack his lube, spritz it on, and pop it back in the case?

Sweeeeet.

Originally Posted by tobiastate

it may mean that the lube will suffice for a slow moving bearing but is not a formula that would sustain a high speed bearing

I believe that is precisely the implication, that it is not meant for high speed rotating parts. It probably wouldn't stand up to that kind of environment (lots of heat). Which means that it's probably ok for a yoyo, at least in that respect.

The fact that it's 75% mineral spirits would steer me away from it. It's main purpose is to dilute the little lubricant that is there in the first place, probably to make it thin enough to spray. There's a lot better lubes available most places as people have noted above.

Originally Posted by Xdohls

My friend plays trumpet. Does that mean I can just jack his lube, spritz it on, and pop it back in the case?

Yes...

Originally Posted by tobiastate

well like it said on the site... "Uses:
Lubrication/protection of plastic-to-plastic parts (faders), plastic-to-metal parts (faders, linear sliders - dot matrix printers),metal-to-metal parts (sliding and slow rotating metal parts, locks, bearings), carbon-based controls (potentiometers) and membrane switches (mouse pointers, touch keypads)." so i doubt that it'll do any cracking, melting, or otherwise any other damage to plastics in yoyos(besides it'd take a lot of prolonged exposure to the lube to do any real damage.)

Probably, but I'd still be a bit wary. Faders aren't going to have the same stresses as a yoyo's bearing seat if I'm understanding them correctly, and I'm not sure if their the same kind of plastic. And anything you put in your bearing as lube will have prolonged exposure to your bearing seat. It probably won't do anything, but I'd rather use something I know is safe and works great than something with ingredients I've never put in my yoyo and run even a small risk it could weaken the plastic just to hope for the same results. If you can get it for free though, you might as well try it. I hope it works well for you, songa.

Originally Posted by jhb8426

I believe that is precisely the implication, that it is not meant for high speed rotating parts. It probably wouldn't stand up to that kind of environment (lots of heat). Which means that it's probably ok for a yoyo, at least in that respect.

The fact that it's 75% mineral spirits would steer me away from it. It's main purpose is to dilute the little lubricant that is there in the first place, probably to make it thin enough to spray. There's a lot better lubes available most places as people have noted above.
Yes...

i agree, 75% mineral spirits doesn't make me want to jump up and spray some in a bearing. all with the above stated spend $1.75 on a bottle of Remington teflon rifle lube.